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we have religion involved. and we have got just a pretty defendant with just a heinous, brutal killing. so all those put together, that's why everybody is paying attention to this. >> bill: what's the religion component. >> they are both hormone. travis alexander, the victim had grown up mormon. he has been a mormon his whole life jodi arias, the defendant, converted to mormonism just prior to dating travis alexander. we have a very large mormon community here in arizona. so that has gained a lot of attention. but i think just the fact that a religion is involved and it's so involved here, that's really important to a lot of people watching we just heard the judge reading questions to ms. areas, they came from the jury, right? in your observation of the try trial being in the courtroom how do you think it's going? >> i don't think it's good for jodi at all. arizona is one the few states that allows the jury to ask the witness questions. she was on the stand for 18 days the jury had over 220 questions for her. t
we have religion involved. and we have got just a pretty defendant with just a heinous, brutal killing. so all those put together, that's why everybody is paying attention to this. >> bill: what's the religion component. >> they are both hormone. travis alexander, the victim had grown up mormon. he has been a mormon his whole life jodi arias, the defendant, converted to mormonism just prior to dating travis alexander. we have a very large mormon community here in arizona. so that...
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but this -- this is a sign, their religion is so often about signs and sim bog that he was able to have his inaugural mass on this day, that we have a ten-year anniversary of the iraq war coming out, that we have the anniversary of the march from selma to montgomery coming out, that these are opportunities that his leadership has begun during for him to weigh in and hear what his message is as it extends to the world. >> and let's recall during that homily the protection of creation that he talked about. this is one who took francis as his name, francis being a great creationist, praying brother, son, sister moon, and so this pope, i think, you will see a reach out, an outreach to ecology and protecting of the environment, much like benedict. >> looking at all the flags waving a moment ago in st. peter's square there. it is quite a scene. the vatican says 200,000 people, 150,000 to 200,000 people there. maybe a little bit on the lower end if you're doing crowd estimates right there. but jim bittermann is there and whatever the number is, there was certainly a great deal of enthusiasm. >
but this -- this is a sign, their religion is so often about signs and sim bog that he was able to have his inaugural mass on this day, that we have a ten-year anniversary of the iraq war coming out, that we have the anniversary of the march from selma to montgomery coming out, that these are opportunities that his leadership has begun during for him to weigh in and hear what his message is as it extends to the world. >> and let's recall during that homily the protection of creation that...
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heads of state who were here, and a dozen or so heads of government as well as officials from various religions around the world. he said authentic power is service. that must have been one of the message that he wanted to get across because he later tweeted that same line. >> and for all of the change that's happening, there's gonna be a lot of similarities because there's very little chance of any change as far as leaning toward liberal stances, roles of women in the church, gay marriage and abortion, correct? >> reporter: that is correct. he's put from the same cloth as his predecessor as benedict xvi and john paul ii. no question about that. the president of argentina was here today. the pope has said he's against handing out condoms for free. those type of issues, the pope doesn't -- those won't be issues he will have a new message on, it seems. >> is there any expectation that he will do as much traveling as pope john paul ii? are we expecting any visits to lasten america? >> reporter: i would think so. there were a lot of -- one thing i should say, he's older. he's 76 years old. he was f
heads of state who were here, and a dozen or so heads of government as well as officials from various religions around the world. he said authentic power is service. that must have been one of the message that he wanted to get across because he later tweeted that same line. >> and for all of the change that's happening, there's gonna be a lot of similarities because there's very little chance of any change as far as leaning toward liberal stances, roles of women in the church, gay...
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heads of state who were here, and a dozen or so heads of government as well as officials from various religions around the world. he said authentic power is service. that must have been one of the message that he wanted to get across because he later tweeted that same line. >> and for all of the change that's happening, there's gonna be a lot of similarities because there's very little chance of any change as far as leaning toward liberal stances, roles of women in the church, gay marriage and abortion, correct? >> reporter: that is correct. he's put from the same cloth as his predecessor as benedict xvi and john paul ii. no question about that. the president of argentina was here today. the pope has said he's against handing out condoms for free. those type of issues, the pope doesn't -- those won't be issues he will have a new message on, it seems. >> is there any expectation that he will do as much traveling as pope john paul ii? are we expecting any visits to lasten america? >> reporter: i would think so. there were a lot of -- one thing i should say, he's older. he's 76 years old. he was f
heads of state who were here, and a dozen or so heads of government as well as officials from various religions around the world. he said authentic power is service. that must have been one of the message that he wanted to get across because he later tweeted that same line. >> and for all of the change that's happening, there's gonna be a lot of similarities because there's very little chance of any change as far as leaning toward liberal stances, roles of women in the church, gay...
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and in nations and among people where democracy doesn't exist in their religion or in their experience, it is an extremely difficult thing to do. jon: marvin, i understand you can hear me now. >> i'm back. jon: good. >> i just answered his question. >> thank you very much. [laughter] jon: i have one for you, marvin, you you were saying the press should have been more skeptical. you had the director of the cia saying weapons of mass destruction a slam dunk in iraq, you had saddam apparently telling his own generals that he had weapons of mass destruction. you had colin powell going before the u.n. general assembly and saying, look, they've got all the parts and pieces they need to build weapons of mass destruction. how much more skeptical was the press supposed to be? >> well, you are setting up the bush administration's case for war in iraq. and the united states went to war in iraq. congress supported the president's policy on going to war, and the media supported it what this all adds up to, however, since it didn't work out that way, was that somebody got it drastically wrong. ameri
and in nations and among people where democracy doesn't exist in their religion or in their experience, it is an extremely difficult thing to do. jon: marvin, i understand you can hear me now. >> i'm back. jon: good. >> i just answered his question. >> thank you very much. [laughter] jon: i have one for you, marvin, you you were saying the press should have been more skeptical. you had the director of the cia saying weapons of mass destruction a slam dunk in iraq, you had...
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our religion correspondent lauren green in rome for us this morning. lauren, people of the faith are very well familiar with this process. >> absolutely. i want to clarify something, that pope francis is not offering communion to the masses but only to the deacons there. estimates say that about 150,000 people in st. peter's square, that column-lined street leading to the vatican. there are priests going to the crowd that will venture communion to the people, to anybody who wants it. nobody will be turned away. those yellow and white umbrellas, those are indications to the people in the crowd that communion is being served and they should head to one of those umbrellas if they want to be served. we're not quite sure how long the communion will last. but everybody will be served. and everybody who wants to partake of the meal can. >> father murray, father gerald murray from holy family church in new york with us this morning as well. the body of christ, the bread of heaven and catholics believe that there's a transformation that happens here. >> yes. it
our religion correspondent lauren green in rome for us this morning. lauren, people of the faith are very well familiar with this process. >> absolutely. i want to clarify something, that pope francis is not offering communion to the masses but only to the deacons there. estimates say that about 150,000 people in st. peter's square, that column-lined street leading to the vatican. there are priests going to the crowd that will venture communion to the people, to anybody who wants it....